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Edit: there are a couple of clarifications in this post stemming from Amy’s misinterpretation of what I wrote

I’m about to leave for my first day as a student at UTSC. Yay! Go me! And stuff. The past couple of weeks have been seriously hectic, what with the moving and dealing with all that shit, tidying up the new place and unpacking stuff, getting it set up so that it’s livable. Plus all the extra work that needs to be done as part of living with someone: agreeing on a division of work and so on.

But it’s going well. We didn’t manage to get everything unpacked inside of a week as we had hoped, but we’re doing pretty well. We’re doing massive amounts of cooking on the weekends so we have meals all week without having to work much cooking into our schedules. This is working better than I thought it would. It means we only eat two or three different dishes per week, but as it turns out that’s just fine. Partly because it means we always have a good dinner regardless of how tired or lazy we feel: no “ugh, I don’t feel like cooking, let’s just have noodles and chick peas again.”

And now… back to school. Weirdness! I know two people at UTSC so far: Jake’s sister (R) and his dad (M). R is in her second year, while M is a prof. In fact, his is the class I am going to in about an hour and a half. There is someone else there as well, who is sort of related to me by marriage. If I understood correctly, he is a postdoc teaching math of some sort, and his wife is the sister of the wife of a man whose mother has the same last name as me. So this guy is my third cousin’s wife’s brother in law, I think. I don’t know what my family tree looks like in that branch, but that sounds about right. So I know his last name, and he’ll recognize mine when he hears it, and I am supposed to go and curry favour with him or something. Fuck that. I’m weirded out enough about having my partner’s dad, who I know fairly well, teach me; I’m not going to go up to a stranger and say, “Hey, your wife’s sister’s husband is my cousin. How about some special treatment?”

But that’s the way these families work. I’m sure it’s the same with many nationalities, but to me it seems especially prevalent in the jewish branches of my family: due to my family’s sense of ethnic entitlement getting ahead of others based on your family connections is not only accepted, it’s the expected way to behave. There is even an attitude among my father’s family of “as a Jew* you deserve to be ahead, so we’ll help realize that.” Personally, I find it distasteful.

But university. Woo… I don’t really know what to expect. I keep seeing images from TV and movies, trying to convince me that all the classes are either 500-student amphitheatres or 12-student discussion groups. I’m sure I’ll do well, but it’s a little whelming.

Oh, and speaking of whelm… I need to get some gaming on! And I need to find a Go club at UTSC. And I need to apply for a job at the computer labs. Oh, so much to do, and so much time wasted blogging instead. Arg! Bye.

* Never mind that I’m not one

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Comment by Amy
September 16, 2006 @ 3:41 pm
What I find distasteful is overt prejudice based on an age old stereotype of jews doing anything to get ahead and feeling entitled. Further that you believe you're allowed to sound like a complete racist because your family is jewish. I obviously have no problem having a brother who is not jewish but I do have a problem with having one who is an anti-semite. If you want to describe yourself as a non-jew then by all means go ahead but then you're relieved of your ability to be openly critical of the religion in the same way as you would be of any other. Sorit was not trying to get you a head start but instead introduce you to someone at the university so you would feel more at home and comfortable. Not only is she one of the sweetest people you'll ever run into in your life but her husband Shay (sp?) is her equal. You would probably enjoy introducing yourself to and forming a relationship with him. Jew or not.
Comment by Amy
September 16, 2006 @ 3:45 pm
One more thing: your grandmother, grandfather, father and sister all at some point started with absolutely nothing (coming from the Ukraine, coming from Poland, coming over from England) and built quite a bit based on nothing but hard work. I can't speak for them but reducing MY accomplishments to a bunch of jew money-grabbing and overstepping my peers is not only a gross misrepresentation but also incredibly insulting.
Comment by god
September 16, 2006 @ 6:22 pm

Before accusing me of anti-semitism, Amy, read what I actually wrote. I expressed no opinion concerning "money-grubbingness" or any other jewish stereotype. I am, however, disgusted by the way our family insists that, by virtue of being people of jewish descendance, we deserve to do well. The same "stick with your own" attitude is seen in many, if not all ethnicities, not just jewish people.

And I was told specifically: "If you're having any trouble, any difficulties, see him and he'll help." Told repeatedly and insistently, as if to hammer in the idea that I could get a leg-up. And yes, Sorit seems like a lovely person. I'm sure I would get along with her husband at least as well as with any other sufficiently geeky mathie. And I don't hold it against her for trying to show me, in her way, that she wanted to make me feel welcome in that branch of the family and in Toronto and whatever.

As for this: "you're relieved of your ability to be openly critical of the religion in the same way as you would be of any other." I am relieved of nothing. I am free to criticize judaism as much and as openly as I do any other religion. To be clear: they're all stupid, and anyone who lives their life religiously is either an idiot or purposefully deluding themselves. I am unashamed of my contempt for religion and religiousness, pleasant as religious people may be otherwise and as much as I may like them anyway.

One more thing: my grandparents did start from zero, but my father and sister certainly did not. They both were brought up not wanting for essentials, thanks to the hard work of their forebears. I'm not saying this to imply that you have been slacking off and riding Dad's coattails or whatever, only that you perhaps do not recognize the privilege you were born into. You and I were able to go to school largely because we had a support base that allowed us to do so, not only because of our own efforts. To claim that we got where we are alone is to head down the path of claiming that black people tend to be poor because they're lazy, like Dad does.

Comment by Amy
September 19, 2006 @ 8:54 pm
...to me it seems especially prevalent in the jewish branches of my family: getting ahead of others based on your family connections is not only accepted, it’s the expected way to behave. There is even an attitude of “as a Jew* you deserve to be ahead, so we’ll help realize that.” That reads that jews crawl over other people to get ahead and feel entitled to do so. Making broad statements about the values and morals of people based on their background is not only ignorant but also racist. You posted something degrading and hurtful which is not only untrue, prejudiced and rife with personal resentment but also referred directly to myself and your entire family, on both sides. Secondly Sorit would never commit her husband to offering you special treatment or better grades, for example, only perhaps help finding the registrar's office or support if you needed someone to speak to. You filled in the blanks in your head to turn that into something unjust or some sort of favoritism because you have established prejudices towards jews and israelis when in fact it was no different than someone introducing you to a neighbour or a friend of theirs. If anything she was recognizing your situation as someone who is embarking on something foreign and was overly kind and sweet. Finally, you have little to no experience of what I've gone through, built and established for myself, nor what I've gone without. You may want to inform yourself about my life before you make assumptions such as how I got to school (on my own dollar - every penny) and how little I appreciate the things I do have. What I said is that at some time or other myself and your father have had to start from nothing and build based on their own hard work and determination and not through "jewing" their way to the top or as you put it: "getting ahead of others based on ... family connections". I've also never encountered any feeling in our family which says that jews should do better than others. I disappoints me that you see me (and the rest of the jews?) as being spoiled, charmed and conniving. You neglect to mention the variety of contacts and friends our family has in a number of different communities and religions and would offer to help anyone close to us (related or otherwise) out of kindness and not for personal gain. I would further jump the gun and say that regardless of who was sitting at the table with us that night (Mark Bolusmjak, Fred Vatcha, etc.) Sorit would have made the same offer and her mistaking you for jewish or mistaking you for family did not influence her at all. I would be shocked if it had even crossed her mind.
Comment by god
September 19, 2006 @ 10:24 pm

The "as a jew you deserve to be ahead" attitude is specifically a comment on my family. This is an attitude I have mostly seen in my father, but reflected here and there in other parts of the family. It may be that my father's blatant racism has tainted the way I see the rest of his family, and that I sometimes notice attitudes like that where they are not. But I do think they are present, your own interpretations of my motivations notwithstanding.

You posted something degrading and hurtful which is not only untrue, prejudiced and rife with personal resentment but also referred directly to myself and your entire family, on both sides.

What I posted was rife with resentment, true. I have been pressured incessantly pretty much my whole life by you and Dad to be something I am not. And this doesn't just refer to Judaism, either. What I wrote does refer to you directly, but not to both sides of the family: only my father's side has put that sort of pressure on me. Again, I am not referring to my family in general, nor to Jews in general. I am referring specifically to my father and his family.

Now, Sorit is pretty far removed from Dad, family-tree-wise. So while those in closer proximity to him (you or his brother, for example) share a larger number of his ideas and motivations, those further away, while they may appear to behave similarly in some ways, probably do so for rather different reasons. And so all I can say about Sorit's actions, well-intentioned as I was always sure they were, was that they rubbed me the wrong way. I don't think her reaction of "you're doing math? My husband teaches math. You should take his class!" was an offer to help me find the registrar's office.

You may want to inform yourself about my life before you make assumptions such as how I got to school

I know about as much about your life as you know about mine, Amy. I do know that it is you, not Dad, who is putting you through school, and the last thing I want to do is belittle the shitload of effort you put in. But I also have some concept of how much time and resources were poured into getting you to a point where you could even contemplate going to university.

My point is that it is basically impossible to start over from nothing, having had a reasonably comfortable childhood. You had the benefit of a childhood education to back you up. You had a safety net which, had you desperately needed it, would have supported you. There is almost no conceivable situation in which you would have starved to death -- in fact, the only thing you were missing in order to get where you are now was a whole shitload of effort. That's not starting from nothing.

So stop putting words in my mouth. I am criticizing my family's approach to and attitude toward judaism, not making a blanket statement about jewish people. I just made a couple of small edits in the text to make that clear (nothing omitted or changed, just a couple of phrases added). Also, I'm taking issue with your reference to "starting from nothing": either you don't recognize the lasting privilege of having a safety net and of beginning life in a family willing and able to keep you warm, fed and healthy, or else you have a very strange definition of "nothing."

Comment by Amy
September 20, 2006 @ 2:19 pm
It's amazing how you continue to have stunted and juvenile impressions of who I am (forever marked by the idea that I'm spoiled and entitled) when you have the gall to take your father's money while calling him a racist and degrading everything he's done to keep you fed and clothed. I hope you aren't deluded about what an ungrateful shit you are. It's amazing how loud you voice your opinions once pressed a bit. As for my own upbringing, while you were going to private schools, trips to Israel and living in a beautiful house in Westmount I was babysitting to feed myself and buy my mother cigarettes and abandoned on a number occasions with various relatives who spent every waking hour trying to figure out how to get rid of me. And while you were living in your private adjacent apartment on Cote-des-Neiges I was coming home from school to find eviction notices on the door. Not only are you selfish and cruel, you've also got the social capacity of a 12 year old. I hope you remember what you've said about your father's family next time he buys you a plane ticket or a hotel room or has you for dinner or has his accountant do your taxes or sends you money for course materials?rent?phone payments? Or bails you out when you can't make a loan repayment. I would suggest that if you hate your father so much you stop leeching off him and maybe for once live by some of the values you think yourself so righteous as to impose on others.
Comment by god
September 23, 2006 @ 2:59 pm

Amy, you're still missing the point. Having a shitty life is not the same thing as starting from nothing. Attacking me based on whatever you think you know does not change that. And it does not change the fact that our father is a racist, or the fact of your own hypocrisy.

I know that you have been elevating our father in your mind to fuel the hatred you feel toward our mother. And maybe that involves ignoring some of his more distasteful qualities, just like you ignore her better qualities. But one of these days I hope you'll take a good look at Dad and the way he sees the world and the way he treats his position as a parent and decide whether you want to be a part of that.


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